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		<title>By: Common Sense Is Worth Millions!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense Is Worth Millions!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is one BIG THING self publisher never seem to consider when complaining that publishers won&#039;t &quot;let them in&quot;, and that is that their writing probably isn&#039;t good enough to be ANYWHERE NEAR PUBLISHED! I doubt that all these millions of SP &quot;authors&quot; are writing so unique and so far out that publishers,with 30 years of industry experience- just can&#039;t market it. A first draft of a first book is usually UNPULISHABLE for anyone. The reaaction of traditionally published authors is to &quot;hone&quot; their craft and write something that can actually SELL more than 5 copies. &quot;Then&quot; they go back to literary agents with their work (most publishers don&#039;t even DEAL with authors directly, so why would you even go there and try to &quot;bypass&quot; a literary agent who can open the front door for you???).
I&#039;ve read about 30 of these types of discussions and out of the hundreds of descriptions posted by SP authors, I&#039;ve only read 4 posts where the writer sought a literary agent.

One girl said she sent a query to agent Nathan Bramsford. According to her he rejected it so she resorted to SP. Um, sending your work out to only one agent isn&#039;t even trying! And then turn around and blame the &quot;system&quot;? The post I&#039;m talking about can be found on Nathan Bramsfor&#039;s own blog if you Google his name and type &quot;Self Publishing&quot; after it.

Another SP children&#039;s book writer who&#039;s situation I just read about said he submitted his &quot;middle grade&quot; book to publishers and some weren&#039;t interested and told him they didn&#039;t even REPRESENT middle grade books! That told me he didn&#039;t bother to see what those publishers even represent before sending his stuff, which of OF COURSE would result in rejection! Then agents told him they thought his manuscript was &quot;children&#039;s&quot; instead and rejected him. That says he hasn&#039;t studied the very genre he wrote before submitting. Unprepared. He then decided to SP his book.

My point is, I feel like many SP authors destroy their chances of snagging an agent/doing things step by step because they want a &quot;short cut&quot; to being an &quot;author&quot;. There IS no short cut. SP is just Vanity- you pay someone to make you feel like you&#039;re a real author, instead of having someone &quot;pay YOU&quot;.

And yes, they say the amount of SP books published these days is greater than traditional titles. But sadly, SP books only make a tiny fraction of books actually BOUGHT by consumers. There is no &quot;outcry&quot; from consumers for more SP books to look at because they are to busy shopping at Barnes and Nobles, buying The Lovely Bones, Twilight Saga, HP, The Passage by Justin Cronin, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, and other books people actually WANT to read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is one BIG THING self publisher never seem to consider when complaining that publishers won&#8217;t &#8220;let them in&#8221;, and that is that their writing probably isn&#8217;t good enough to be ANYWHERE NEAR PUBLISHED! I doubt that all these millions of SP &#8220;authors&#8221; are writing so unique and so far out that publishers,with 30 years of industry experience- just can&#8217;t market it. A first draft of a first book is usually UNPULISHABLE for anyone. The reaaction of traditionally published authors is to &#8220;hone&#8221; their craft and write something that can actually SELL more than 5 copies. &#8220;Then&#8221; they go back to literary agents with their work (most publishers don&#8217;t even DEAL with authors directly, so why would you even go there and try to &#8220;bypass&#8221; a literary agent who can open the front door for you???).<br />
I&#8217;ve read about 30 of these types of discussions and out of the hundreds of descriptions posted by SP authors, I&#8217;ve only read 4 posts where the writer sought a literary agent.</p>
<p>One girl said she sent a query to agent Nathan Bramsford. According to her he rejected it so she resorted to SP. Um, sending your work out to only one agent isn&#8217;t even trying! And then turn around and blame the &#8220;system&#8221;? The post I&#8217;m talking about can be found on Nathan Bramsfor&#8217;s own blog if you Google his name and type &#8220;Self Publishing&#8221; after it.</p>
<p>Another SP children&#8217;s book writer who&#8217;s situation I just read about said he submitted his &#8220;middle grade&#8221; book to publishers and some weren&#8217;t interested and told him they didn&#8217;t even REPRESENT middle grade books! That told me he didn&#8217;t bother to see what those publishers even represent before sending his stuff, which of OF COURSE would result in rejection! Then agents told him they thought his manuscript was &#8220;children&#8217;s&#8221; instead and rejected him. That says he hasn&#8217;t studied the very genre he wrote before submitting. Unprepared. He then decided to SP his book.</p>
<p>My point is, I feel like many SP authors destroy their chances of snagging an agent/doing things step by step because they want a &#8220;short cut&#8221; to being an &#8220;author&#8221;. There IS no short cut. SP is just Vanity- you pay someone to make you feel like you&#8217;re a real author, instead of having someone &#8220;pay YOU&#8221;.</p>
<p>And yes, they say the amount of SP books published these days is greater than traditional titles. But sadly, SP books only make a tiny fraction of books actually BOUGHT by consumers. There is no &#8220;outcry&#8221; from consumers for more SP books to look at because they are to busy shopping at Barnes and Nobles, buying The Lovely Bones, Twilight Saga, HP, The Passage by Justin Cronin, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, and other books people actually WANT to read!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Lehrman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lehrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob:

As someone who thought carefully about whether to self-publish my new book (The Political Speechwriter&#039;s Companion: A Guide for Speakers and Writers)-- and decidedto have CQPress do it, let me tell you why I agree with you. 1) You&#039;re right -- for a lot of people, self-publishing carries a stigma; it&#039;s the mark of someone not good enough to have a &quot;real&quot; publisher buy the book and assume risk.  They&#039;re not always right, but the reaction is common. 2) While self-publishing can work with a genuinely entrepreneurial writer, there are plenty of ways to be entrepreneurial.  For me, blogs, workshops and ways to supplement CQ&#039;s skillful marketing group give me more than enough ways to be entrepreneurial. 3)Writers are prone to deceive themselves about their own work.  It&#039;s understandable -- who can look at something they&#039;ve worked on for trwo years and say, &quot;Yeah, it&#039;s crap.&quot; While traditional publishers can be wrong, if they turn a manuscript down one after the other, that&#039;s a warning sign no writer should ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob:</p>
<p>As someone who thought carefully about whether to self-publish my new book (The Political Speechwriter&#8217;s Companion: A Guide for Speakers and Writers)&#8211; and decidedto have CQPress do it, let me tell you why I agree with you. 1) You&#8217;re right &#8212; for a lot of people, self-publishing carries a stigma; it&#8217;s the mark of someone not good enough to have a &#8220;real&#8221; publisher buy the book and assume risk.  They&#8217;re not always right, but the reaction is common. 2) While self-publishing can work with a genuinely entrepreneurial writer, there are plenty of ways to be entrepreneurial.  For me, blogs, workshops and ways to supplement CQ&#8217;s skillful marketing group give me more than enough ways to be entrepreneurial. 3)Writers are prone to deceive themselves about their own work.  It&#8217;s understandable &#8212; who can look at something they&#8217;ve worked on for trwo years and say, &#8220;Yeah, it&#8217;s crap.&#8221; While traditional publishers can be wrong, if they turn a manuscript down one after the other, that&#8217;s a warning sign no writer should ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Michael Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to introduce a book that may be a useful resource to would-be authors on this blog.

Publishing for Small Press Runs is a pioneering book promoting quick and affordable short press run book publication using the latest digital technology for producing covers and text. This 372-page guide currently is being used as the course text for a class at the University of New Orleans. For more information, see www.ChatgrisPress.com, Books, Publishing for Small Press Runs.

For an AuthorViews video, see http://www.authorviews.com/authors/smith/video.php.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to introduce a book that may be a useful resource to would-be authors on this blog.</p>
<p>Publishing for Small Press Runs is a pioneering book promoting quick and affordable short press run book publication using the latest digital technology for producing covers and text. This 372-page guide currently is being used as the course text for a class at the University of New Orleans. For more information, see <a href="http://www.ChatgrisPress.com">http://www.ChatgrisPress.com</a>, Books, Publishing for Small Press Runs.</p>
<p>For an AuthorViews video, see <a href="http://www.authorviews.com/authors/smith/video.php">http://www.authorviews.com/authors/smith/video.php</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Borders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Borders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s also a generational thing. The internet generation wants easy access and doesn&#039;t care as much who delivers it. Can I find that video on YouTube? Is there a podcast? Does Amazon carry it? The NY Times recently carried a story on authors who took their novels directly to self-published audio podcasts and after distributing thousands of copies, then made a deal with a publisher. They still sought a traditional publisher, but those podcast users put them on the map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s also a generational thing. The internet generation wants easy access and doesn&#8217;t care as much who delivers it. Can I find that video on YouTube? Is there a podcast? Does Amazon carry it? The NY Times recently carried a story on authors who took their novels directly to self-published audio podcasts and after distributing thousands of copies, then made a deal with a publisher. They still sought a traditional publisher, but those podcast users put them on the map.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve received an interesting reaction from some people when they learn I&#039;ve written a book. 

&quot;Where will it be sold?&quot; they ask.

&quot;Barnes &amp; Noble, Borders, amazon.com, and local bookstores all over,&quot; I reply.

Then their eyes light up, and I see a look of respect.  &quot;Oh, it&#039;s for real,&quot; they say.  Then I can tell they thought maybe it would be an e-book and not a &quot;real book.&quot;

So I found it interesting that I got that question from some rather than a question about the publisher, which is John Wiley, by the way. My book, if it&#039;s okay to mention here, is Mort gage Ripoffs and Money Savers.

Great question, Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve received an interesting reaction from some people when they learn I&#8217;ve written a book. </p>
<p>&#8220;Where will it be sold?&#8221; they ask.</p>
<p>&#8220;Barnes &amp; Noble, Borders, amazon.com, and local bookstores all over,&#8221; I reply.</p>
<p>Then their eyes light up, and I see a look of respect.  &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s for real,&#8221; they say.  Then I can tell they thought maybe it would be an e-book and not a &#8220;real book.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I found it interesting that I got that question from some rather than a question about the publisher, which is John Wiley, by the way. My book, if it&#8217;s okay to mention here, is Mort gage Ripoffs and Money Savers.</p>
<p>Great question, Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb Finnamore</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/does-self-publishing-your-book-hurt-your-credibility/#comment-274434</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Finnamore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends. &quot;Better&quot; is relative. Does our society place value on an author of a traditionally published work? To be sure. However, these days unless you&#039;re an author with Grisham or King potential to sell billions, you&#039;re likely as not to end up in the reject pile of manuscripts before you get past the acquisitions editor. Few there be that pass into the inner sanctums of publishing, actually making it to press with the sacred publisher logo gracing their work. Heck, you deserve some respect for the accomplishment! Yet, there are other works that end up in the print-on-demand bin merely because they didn&#039;t meet the publisher&#039;s vision/mission criteria for the year. To be fair, I submit their content is no less valid just because what they had to say didn&#039;t fit with the publisher&#039;s annual focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends. &#8220;Better&#8221; is relative. Does our society place value on an author of a traditionally published work? To be sure. However, these days unless you&#8217;re an author with Grisham or King potential to sell billions, you&#8217;re likely as not to end up in the reject pile of manuscripts before you get past the acquisitions editor. Few there be that pass into the inner sanctums of publishing, actually making it to press with the sacred publisher logo gracing their work. Heck, you deserve some respect for the accomplishment! Yet, there are other works that end up in the print-on-demand bin merely because they didn&#8217;t meet the publisher&#8217;s vision/mission criteria for the year. To be fair, I submit their content is no less valid just because what they had to say didn&#8217;t fit with the publisher&#8217;s annual focus.</p>
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