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	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674762</link>
		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674762</guid>
		<description>Well, in a couple of months when the economy drops and more Starbucks close up shop, then maybe you could all go back to the local donut shops in your area...I'm sure they be glad to drop a slice of lemon in your tea (iced or hot)...support our local businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in a couple of months when the economy drops and more Starbucks close up shop, then maybe you could all go back to the local donut shops in your area&#8230;I&#8217;m sure they be glad to drop a slice of lemon in your tea (iced or hot)&#8230;support our local businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Recent Faves Tagged With "lemonade" : MyNetFaves</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674627</link>
		<dc:creator>Recent Faves Tagged With "lemonade" : MyNetFaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob Bly</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674610</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674610</guid>
		<description>Knoblauch: your comment is still wrong-headed. The incident happened to me, it illustrates a point my readers are obviously interested in talking about, and I did not copy it from anyone else. It may have been written about elsewhere, but I didn't see this, mainly because, like every other writer on Earth, I can't read everything. Are you suggesting bloggers to an exhaustive search prior to every post and refrain from posting anything that has ever been written about before? That seems impractical and absurd. If bloggers can only do posts on topics never done anywhere else, blogging would end tomorrow, as there is little new under the sun....

Denise: the excuse they gave you seems bogus to me. If it's a health department regulation, why does every other restaurant and coffee shop in my state offer lemon with iced tea, but not Starbucks?

Roberto: actually they would probably refuse you, because how would they know you aren't a looney bringing tainted food into the establishment. 

As for ambiance, I understand your point, though I am much more comfortable in a regular coffee shop than in Starbucks' rarefied Yuppie atmosphere. But that's just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knoblauch: your comment is still wrong-headed. The incident happened to me, it illustrates a point my readers are obviously interested in talking about, and I did not copy it from anyone else. It may have been written about elsewhere, but I didn&#8217;t see this, mainly because, like every other writer on Earth, I can&#8217;t read everything. Are you suggesting bloggers to an exhaustive search prior to every post and refrain from posting anything that has ever been written about before? That seems impractical and absurd. If bloggers can only do posts on topics never done anywhere else, blogging would end tomorrow, as there is little new under the sun&#8230;.</p>
<p>Denise: the excuse they gave you seems bogus to me. If it&#8217;s a health department regulation, why does every other restaurant and coffee shop in my state offer lemon with iced tea, but not Starbucks?</p>
<p>Roberto: actually they would probably refuse you, because how would they know you aren&#8217;t a looney bringing tainted food into the establishment. </p>
<p>As for ambiance, I understand your point, though I am much more comfortable in a regular coffee shop than in Starbucks&#8217; rarefied Yuppie atmosphere. But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674591</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674591</guid>
		<description>Bob,

As I sit here with my large (um, Grande) iced coffee (well, OK, it's an iced decaf espresso Americano b/c Starbucks does not have cold decaf available for an iced coffee) I wonder about all the comments to Bob's simple rant (I mean simple request).  Yes, the coffee is better at local shops and it is important to support the local small businesses.  Yes, there are better places to get iced tea in my town (well, any town, probably).  But Starbucks is not really about coffee or tea anymore, at least for me.  Starbucks is a great place to gather and have a discussion with one or more people when no other place works. The Mom &#38; Pop shops won't let me meet there unless I buy breakfast (or lunch or whatever), and the staff is just plain lame.  And they rush me out ASAP so they can “turn the table” for another customer.  I tolerate the over roasted coffee and iced tea w/o lemon so I can gather with my friends, associates, clients, band of brothers, etc.

Perhaps you could try an experiment (perhaps we could all participate in it with you!).  Here it is:  each of us who enjoys iced tea with lemon in it will bring a lemon to Starbucks and ask the Barrista to slice it and add a piece to our tea.  Let them know that the rest of the lemon is for other customers who would like lemon in their tea.  Let’s see what happens and report back next week.  Did they honor our request? Would they share the remaining three wedges with others?  Did they shave the rind off and twist it into an espresso? Or did they firmly state that it is against company policy and refuse to cut the lemon.    

Are ya up for it Bob? And Denise, and Lou and Knoblauch, and Edward, and Bob, and Stacey, Jay, and Ryan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>As I sit here with my large (um, Grande) iced coffee (well, OK, it&#8217;s an iced decaf espresso Americano b/c Starbucks does not have cold decaf available for an iced coffee) I wonder about all the comments to Bob&#8217;s simple rant (I mean simple request).  Yes, the coffee is better at local shops and it is important to support the local small businesses.  Yes, there are better places to get iced tea in my town (well, any town, probably).  But Starbucks is not really about coffee or tea anymore, at least for me.  Starbucks is a great place to gather and have a discussion with one or more people when no other place works. The Mom &amp; Pop shops won&#8217;t let me meet there unless I buy breakfast (or lunch or whatever), and the staff is just plain lame.  And they rush me out ASAP so they can “turn the table” for another customer.  I tolerate the over roasted coffee and iced tea w/o lemon so I can gather with my friends, associates, clients, band of brothers, etc.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could try an experiment (perhaps we could all participate in it with you!).  Here it is:  each of us who enjoys iced tea with lemon in it will bring a lemon to Starbucks and ask the Barrista to slice it and add a piece to our tea.  Let them know that the rest of the lemon is for other customers who would like lemon in their tea.  Let’s see what happens and report back next week.  Did they honor our request? Would they share the remaining three wedges with others?  Did they shave the rind off and twist it into an espresso? Or did they firmly state that it is against company policy and refuse to cut the lemon.    </p>
<p>Are ya up for it Bob? And Denise, and Lou and Knoblauch, and Edward, and Bob, and Stacey, Jay, and Ryan?</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Johnson</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674580</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674580</guid>
		<description>Bob:

I think I can answer your question.  I, too, enjoy a slice of lemon in my iced tea and have found it odd that no Starbucks can fulfill my request.  I asked while I was in a Starbucks in Green Valley, AZ. I was told it was a health department issue.  A peculiar answer given so many other establishments,such as Einstein Bagels, offer it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob:</p>
<p>I think I can answer your question.  I, too, enjoy a slice of lemon in my iced tea and have found it odd that no Starbucks can fulfill my request.  I asked while I was in a Starbucks in Green Valley, AZ. I was told it was a health department issue.  A peculiar answer given so many other establishments,such as Einstein Bagels, offer it.</p>
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		<title>By: Knoblauch</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674565</link>
		<dc:creator>Knoblauch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674565</guid>
		<description>OK, if you don't read the Denver Post there's also Gawker and Slashfood:

http://gawker.com/388244/starbucks-doesnt-have-any-god-damn-lemons
http://www.slashfood.com/2008/05/07/when-life-denies-you-lemons-choose-a-different-coffee-shop/

Look, I could post in my own blog about topics that already have dozens of blogger comments from months and years ago, but I don't because, well, it's been done several times over already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, if you don&#8217;t read the Denver Post there&#8217;s also Gawker and Slashfood:</p>
<p><a href="http://gawker.com/388244/starbucks-doesnt-have-any-god-damn-lemons" rel="nofollow">http://gawker.com/388244/starbucks-doesnt-have-any-god-damn-lemons</a><br />
<a href="http://www.slashfood.com/2008/05/07/when-life-denies-you-lemons-choose-a-different-coffee-shop/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slashfood.com/2008/05/07/when-life-denies-you-lemons-choose-a-different-coffee-shop/</a></p>
<p>Look, I could post in my own blog about topics that already have dozens of blogger comments from months and years ago, but I don&#8217;t because, well, it&#8217;s been done several times over already.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Wasser</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674564</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Wasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674564</guid>
		<description>Call it arrogance, call it market blindness, but it appears that Starbucks has been caught sleeping.  They've been hit hard by the double whammy of a soft economy and competition. Not necessarily broadside competition as with -- as in a related market -- Burger King vs. McDonald's, but rather competition from many smaller cafes and coffee spots throughout the land.  These Starbucks alternatives offer not only lemon with your tea, but coffee in many more flavors than the standard big three (bold, mild, coffee of the day) that Starbucks offers.  

McDonald's, on the other hand, has come up with health food servings, coffee for seniors, and price specials which they push aggressively from time to time. 

Once upon a time, Starbucks built a better mousetrap.  But now the mice are beating a path to more appealing coffee spots.

Markets get old and tired, and need a caffeine spike.  Nothing's forever. Wake up Starbucks and smell all the OTHER coffee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call it arrogance, call it market blindness, but it appears that Starbucks has been caught sleeping.  They&#8217;ve been hit hard by the double whammy of a soft economy and competition. Not necessarily broadside competition as with &#8212; as in a related market &#8212; Burger King vs. McDonald&#8217;s, but rather competition from many smaller cafes and coffee spots throughout the land.  These Starbucks alternatives offer not only lemon with your tea, but coffee in many more flavors than the standard big three (bold, mild, coffee of the day) that Starbucks offers.  </p>
<p>McDonald&#8217;s, on the other hand, has come up with health food servings, coffee for seniors, and price specials which they push aggressively from time to time. </p>
<p>Once upon a time, Starbucks built a better mousetrap.  But now the mice are beating a path to more appealing coffee spots.</p>
<p>Markets get old and tired, and need a caffeine spike.  Nothing&#8217;s forever. Wake up Starbucks and smell all the OTHER coffee!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bly</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674563</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674563</guid>
		<description>Knoblauch: you embarrass yourself when you make such accusations. I have never read this about Starbucks. And my story is a real one; it happened a few days ago, How does showing me a link to the Denver Post negate the truth of that? I don't read the Denver Post. Your post here is really ridiculous. Please don't contribute to this blog unless you have something intelligent and accurate to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knoblauch: you embarrass yourself when you make such accusations. I have never read this about Starbucks. And my story is a real one; it happened a few days ago, How does showing me a link to the Denver Post negate the truth of that? I don&#8217;t read the Denver Post. Your post here is really ridiculous. Please don&#8217;t contribute to this blog unless you have something intelligent and accurate to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Knoblauch</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674560</link>
		<dc:creator>Knoblauch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674560</guid>
		<description>For the record, please at least give some credit to the Denver Post for your plagiarism:

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_9163360</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, please at least give some credit to the Denver Post for your plagiarism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_9163360" rel="nofollow">http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_9163360</a></p>
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		<title>By: Knoblauch</title>
		<link>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674559</link>
		<dc:creator>Knoblauch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bly.com/blog/general/where-starbucks-fails/#comment-674559</guid>
		<description>Sigh. Not the tiresome, recycled lemon-in-iced-tea Starbucks rant again. Hasn't this story been flogged to death already over the past couple of years? Aren't there better topics to write about, let alone exhume?

I bet you don't even drink iced tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. Not the tiresome, recycled lemon-in-iced-tea Starbucks rant again. Hasn&#8217;t this story been flogged to death already over the past couple of years? Aren&#8217;t there better topics to write about, let alone exhume?</p>
<p>I bet you don&#8217;t even drink iced tea.</p>
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